So You Want to Take a Big Buck — Part II

By Dr. Ken Nordberg

[The following is the another of many older articles that will appear on my website. This is article was first published in Midwest Outdoors in September of 2009. Please share what you learn from these articles with your whitetail hunting friends.]

[A note from John Nordberg: I am going through my father's older stories and am adding them to this archive. Today — 5/29/2014 — I have found Parts I and III. I will put them up in the next few days. In my opinion, Part II is a nice article and stands up well by itself.]

Doc with his latest trophy buck. (2010, 12-pointer)

A beautiful, trophy-class buck.

    Last month I explained what is needed to become regularly successful at hunting adult bucks, namely, dedication, accurate buck lore and new and improved hunting methods. I then explained the numerous ways a buck hunter must be dedicated. This month, I'll tackle buck lore. It's a huge subject (enough to fill nine Whitetail Hunters Almanacs). Some parts are more important than others. These you should learn first. The rest can be learned later.

    Deer signs are at the top of the list. Because adult bucks are much larger animals than adult does, yearlings and fawns, many of the signs they make make it possible to key on adult bucks only. The extraordinary contribution deer signs make to buck hunting begins about now, this month. [Editorial note: this article was first published in September.]

When to Scout for Whitetails

    The last half of September is a particularly productive time to scout and select stand sites. By this time weather is fall-like (cool), triggering increased activity among whitetails which in turn insures there will be lots of fresh deer signs to look at while scouting. Most biting insects are done for the year, leaves begin falling and deer begin favoring many of the trails they will use right up until they migrate to wintering areas in late December. Much of what you learn from deer signs at this time will therefore be applicable to hunting in October, November and even December. Whereas desirable quarries (certain big bucks) are sure to be alarmed by your scouting (also by hunters firing shotguns at small game such as grouse and woodcock), within 2-3 weeks most of those deer will resume normal, predictable activities in normal, predictable places (except maybe close to roads). Optimal odds for hunting success will thus be fully restored before hunting begins.

    If you are thinking you don't need to scout or select stand sites because you plan to use the same stand site(s) you used last year, keep in mind today's experienced adult whitetails quickly discover, identify and thereafter treat stand sites discovered to be occupied or scented by humans with great caution, generally avoiding them. Though some well-chosen stand sites may be productive for several consecutive hunting seasons, most aren't. [Editorial Note: Doc's youngest son Ken — an exceptionally good hunter at locating stand sites — has had 2 stands where he took 5 bucks — year-after-year. Of course, since he kept harvesting the bucks that moved into the areas surrounding these 2 stand sites, these mature whitetail bucks were never able to learn about this deadly hunter. If you take a buck from a stand site, it is worth another try the following year. If you do not take a buck from a site that you have hunted 2 or more days last season, consider this — the whitetail deer in the area probably have learned to avoid that stand site.] The more a stand site is used during the course of one or more hunting seasons, the sooner it will become useless for hunting all but fawns and yearlings. Sure, last year's productive stand may prove productive again this year, but in the event it isn't, the smart hunter always begins each new hunting season with several new stand sites. To be productive for buck hunting, each new site must be selected with care and this requires pre-season scouting.

Deer Sign — Tracks

    While scouting, what should you look for? Deer tracks for one, especially very-recently-made, sharp-edged deer tracks. If the tracks were made by a walking deer (unalarmed), that deer lives nearby. It is almost certain that deer will be somewhere in the same vicinity on the day you begin hunting. If the tracks are 3 to 4-1/2 inches long, tips through dewclaws (dewclaws are those two pointy things that stick down into soft soils or snow behind a whitetail's cloven hooves) or 2-3 inches long or less for hoof only, the deer that made those tracks was a fawn, yearling or adult doe living within the surrounding 80-125 acres. If the tracks are longer, the deer that them is a buck 2-1/2 to 6-1/2 years of age (few bucks live longer) living in the surrounding 0.5-1 square-mile. It will have antlers with 6-10 points. If the tracks are about six inches long, tips through dewclaws, or about four inches long for hooves only, the deer that made them is one of the largest bucks in your hunting area, almost certainly one for the wall. To key on bucks with impressive antlers only, select stand sites near trails or sites where you discover fresh tracks 5-1/2 to 6 inches long, tip through dewclaw or 3-1/2 to 4 inches long, hoof only.

Fresh Buck Track

This track is right at the 4-1/2 inch threshold.
This could be a large doe or a small buck.
Look for tracks bigger than this.
Doc highly recommends measuring tracks.

Deer Sign — Droppings

    Also, look for shiny droppings. Droppings are as reliable as tracks for providing great buck hunting. Droppings 1/4 to 1/2 inch in length (not including those little nubbins at the ends) were made by a fawn, yearling or doe. If longer, they were made by a buck 2-1/2 years of age or older. If 7/8th of an inch or longer, they were made by a potential trophy-class buck. Clumped droppings are generally buck droppings. In fall when leaves are falling and soil is dry, droppings are often the only measurable signs you will find while scouting. Never fear. Stands near fresh adult-buck-sized droppings are as productive as stands near fresh adult-buck-sized tracks.

Fresh Whitetail Buck Droppings

Fresh whitetail buck droppings.
Four key facts: black, shiny, (fresh), clumped, large pellets (buck).
Doc highly recommends measuring droppings.

    [Editor's note: Dr. Ken Nordberg is famous for his biological studies that relate deer sign to the class of deer. He has found that clumped droppings are almost always an indicator of a buck. The clumping is a form of diarrhea. This is a result of a number of factors. In the fall, mature bucks: experience increased levels of testosterone; experience increased levels of stress (as they establish and defend their area); travel more while maintaining their Rut Routes; battle with other bucks; do not eat as well; perhaps do not water as well; and do not sleep as well. While clumped droppings indicate, BUCK, be sure to notice the length of the pellets in the clumps to gauge the class of buck.]

Deer Sign — Beds

    If tracks or droppings are on a trail or in a certain area such as a bedding area (beds present) or feeding area (evidences of feeding present), chances are that deer will use that same trail or area early during the coming hunting season. Keep in mind, however, because of hunting, things will change within 2-3 days after you begin hunting.

Fresh buck bed.

Fresh whitetail buck bed.
Obviously, this article doesn't emphasize beds, but here is a big buck's bed.

Deer Sign — Antler Rubs

    Though unlikely to find ground scrapes in September, antler (velvet) rubs made during the first few days of September will be present. Most of these early rubs will be made on tree trunks or branches an inch or less in diameter regardless of the size of the buck. Such rubs won't tell you much about sizes of bucks (accompanying tracks or droppings will), but rubs made by bucks 2-1/2 years of age or older at this time are generally found within or near buck bedding areas (great stand sites if properly hunted). [Editor's note: Dr. Ken Nordberg calls buck bedding areas, "Buck Bedrooms." Over the last 30 years, he has noted many times, Buck Bedrooms are high risk areas to hunt. If not hunted properly you will chase your trophy-class buck out of his area for the remainder of the hunting season. In this case, "properly hunted" is a big topic not covered in this article.] Rubs made by yearling bucks are typically found in doe feeding areas.

[Editor's Note: Here are 3 examples of antler rubs you might find early during season scouting, and 1 you might find late during the scouting season.]

Blood from a whitetail buck's Velvet Rub.

This is blood left on a freshly made whitetail buck's Velvet Rub.

Doc pointing out an early season antler rub.

Doc looking at a small, early season antler rub.
(Look for droppings and/or tracks to gauge the class of buck.)

Another early season antler rub.

A typical early season antler rub.
Even a large buck can start off with small saplings.

Doc looking at a large antler rub.

That was an exciting antler rub made by a truly monster buck that we never, ever saw. A small buck can't do that!

    If you find no other deer signs, fresh adult-sized tracks and/or droppings are all you really need to select potentially productive stand sites for the first few days of the hunting season. After that you are going to need another means of determining where to hunt next (explained next month).

    When selecting stand sites, don't allow yourself to be overly influenced by abundant deer signs, well-worn deer trails for example, unless adult-buck-sized tracks and/or droppings are part of what you see. When hunting older bucks, except while breeding is in progress, large tracks and droppings take precedence over smaller tracks and droppings, no matter how abundant the smaller tracks and droppings may appear.

Doc demonstrating being skylighted.

Doc demonstrating what skylighting looks like.
(This early treestand just wasn't as productive as we first thought it should be.)

Doc demonstrating a ground blind.

A big advantage of ground blinds — no skylighting.
(Notice the small antler rub.)

John's ground blind for a buck he shot at a distance of 3 feet.

This worked. There was zero skylighting at this ground blind.
(John shot this buck at a distance of three feet — while wearing a camo mask.)

    When selecting a nearby stand site, make certain you won't be sky-lighted or snow-lighted by sitting only where you have a solid, natural background such as dense tree foliage, dense brush or a boulder behind you. Also make certain you have some cover between you and where you expect to see a buck so you can raise your weapon without being readily spotted. Make certain you sit downwind or crosswind. Select a variety of stand sites that can be approached from different directions so you will be able to approach a stand from downwind or crosswind whatever the wind direction.

    While bow hunting between mid-September and mid-October or until the temperature regularly falls below freezing at night, key on feeding areas favored by antlered bucks. During this period, forest bucks will be feeding on grasses, clover, other greens and/or acorns where available. Most farm bucks will feeding on corn and/or soy beans. During morning and evening feeding cycles, antlered bucks of all ages will congregate in certain feeding areas to feed and then spar or battle to determine which of them is most dominant, thus earning the opportunity to do most of the breeding. Torn up patches of ground, much tracked by fighting bucks, and lots of buck-sized tracks and/or droppings are identifying signs of such feeding areas.

Trophy-Class Whitetail Bucks Battling

Doc's wife Jean photographed this epic buck battle in Wisconsin.

    During the last half of October and the first few days of November (unless it's unseasonably warm), all antlered bucks will begin staking out breeding areas (areas that include up to six doe ranges), marking them with antler rubs and ground scrapes. Within 3-7 days, however, via threat or battle the most dominant buck of each 1-2 square-mile area will evict all other antlered bucks from its breeding range (yearling bucks often sneak back). This 2-3 week period is the very best time to stand hunt near freshly made or renewed ground scrapes (a time when it pays to be a bow hunter).

    Breeding in northern Minnesota begins November 3rd - 5th. Throughout the following two weeks, the biggest bucks of your hunting area will be accompanying does in heat (estrus). From this time on, they rarely renew scrapes. [Editor's note: You can waste a lot of time hunting: trails, antler rubs, and ground scrapes (Rut Routes), when the buck is with a doe in heat in her feeding area.] From this time on, they rarely renew scrapes. [Editor's note: Typically, they renew scrapes after finished with one doe, and while looking for another one.] Only 10-12% of does will be in estrus on any one day, and each will be in estrus only 24-26 hours. To see big bucks during this period, key on doe feeding areas early and late in the day, especially feeding areas large enough to be favorites of several adult does and their young, thus improving the odds that at least one doe will be in estrus while you are hunting there. [Editor's note: Always remember, there is no better buck lure than a doe in estrus!]

Evidence of whitetail browsing.

Evidence of whitetail browsing.
(Notice the tips of the branches have been eaten.)
(During Spring Scouting, prior year browse sign is exceptionally easy to spot.)

    Beginning the second week in November, whitetails make the big switch in food from greens to woody browse (slender tips of various shrubs and tree saplings). Be ready for this. From this time until whitetails migrate to wintering areas, doe feeding areas will be characterized by lots of smaller off-trail tracks and droppings and lots of white tips of slender, nipped-off main stems and branches of various shrubs such as red osiers and mountain maples, most commonly found in damp or wet lowlands. Fresh adult-buck-sized tracks and droppings within or near the feeding area reveal a doe that feeds there is currently in estrus.

    Does not bred in November will experience estrus again 28 days later and 28 days later again if still not bred. For this reason buck hunters should continue keying on doe feeding areas until late December.

Doc doing some September scouting.

Doc doing some September scouting.

    All of the above may seem easy to do, but can you identify a whitetail feeding area? Most deer hunters can't. If you can't, you're going to miss the excitement of hunting the best buck stand sites of the firearm deer hunting season. You'll probably end up hunting once productive sites at the wrong time — ground scrapes after November 5th, for example, or sites with a grand view, places smart old bucks avoid like poison during daylight hours. Don't give up, however. Keep your eyes peeled for the above listed signs of feeding areas. One day you'll suddenly halt and say to yourself, "Hey this is a browse area!" From that time on you'll be a much improved buck hunter.

    Good Luck Hunting,


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